The Department of Philosophy at the College of Arts at the University of Basrah organized a panel discussion  on numbers as the origin of existence according to the Pythagoreans.

The panel, in which Assistant Professor Rusul Ali Hussein lectured, aims to shed light on the views of the Pythagorean school on the theories of mathematics and geometry, their connection to modern scientific circles, and the extent of their overlap with other sciences such as medicine and astronomy.
The panel discussion addressed the fact that the way to know things is through their descriptions and searching for the origin of things in their form, in order to arrive at the conclusion that numbers are the problem of the entire universe with its things and beings, because number is the common and comprehensive characteristic of all things in the universe, meaning that we cannot imagine things without the mathematical relationships that exist between them.

The panel also touched on the topic of who is the oldest in numerology? By presenting studies and research that proved that the Babylonian civilization preceded the Pythagoreans by a thousand years in the most advanced mathematics, due to the presence of artifacts in the Museum of Archaeology in Istanbul and at Columbia University in New York that date back to the Babylonian civilization and are older than the Pythagoreans.